Challenges in Designing Human-in-the-Loop Systems for LLMs in Production

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Problem

Domain: Human-in-the-loop learning systems for production LLM and multimodal workflows

V7 argues that production human-in-the-loop systems for LLMs are still primitive: most feedback is thumbs-up/down, automation is overrated, expert users are hard to teach from, and many industrial tasks require discrete outcomes with little tolerance for model error.

Constraints:

Architecture

The practical system described is a human-in-the-loop labeling platform with Auto Label as a multimodal co-pilot: a human provides language instructions, a large model or vision model proposes labels or segmentations, the workspace shows visual output, and expert review/feedback remains necessary because automation, teaching quality, and information targeting are unsolved production problems.

Diagram confidence: reconstructed (reconstructed from prose).

flowchart LR
  expert-labeler["expert labeler"] --> labeling-workspace["labeling workspace"]
  labeling-workspace --> auto-label-copilot["Auto Label copilot"]
  auto-label-copilot --> vision-or-multimodal-models["vision or multimodal models"]
  vision-or-multimodal-models --> training-data-store["training data store"]
  training-data-store --> labeling-workspace
  expert-labeler --> feedback-channel["feedback channel"]
  feedback-channel --> auto-label-copilot
  expert-labeler --> production-decision-surface["production decision surface"]
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Components

Component Role Interacts with
expert labeler Provides natural-language instructions, domain judgment, QA, and corrective feedback. labeling workspace, feedback channel
labeling workspace The V7 interface where visual data, labels, model proposals, and human corrections are managed. expert labeler, Auto Label copilot, training data store
Auto Label copilot A large multimodal model interface that maps language instructions to visual labeling actions. labeling workspace, vision or multimodal models, feedback channel
vision or multimodal models Segment or classify visual objects based on labeler instructions and available model capabilities. Auto Label copilot, training data store
training data store Stores labeled ground-truth data used to train, evaluate, and improve models. labeling workspace, vision or multimodal models
feedback channel Captures human critique and correction beyond simplistic thumbs-up/down signals. expert labeler, Auto Label copilot
production decision surface Represents downstream industrial decisions where outputs may have no undo path. expert labeler

Data flow

An expert labeler gives an instruction inside V7's labeling workspace; Auto Label interprets the prompt and image context, applies a suitable model to segment or label visual objects, returns visual labels for review, and the human correction/QA path becomes training or feedback data rather than a simple thumbs-up/down signal.

3 supporting quotes
“anything that has to do with labeling or teaching or getting information that's inside here to make its way into a model's knowledge.”transcript, stated
“we have something called auto label, which is effectively a large model that given a small prompt, such as segmenting out one of these airplanes, it goes off and starts to segment all the other airplanes that it sees in the picture. So, truly a multimodal”transcript, stated
“it goes off and starts to segment all the other airplanes that it sees in the picture. So, truly a multimodal copilot that is able to understand your language instructions, such as, "Well, an airplane, I know that it's supposed to be a Qantas airplane only”transcript, stated

Why this architecture

V7 keeps humans in the loop because the talk argues that LLMs are still often used as glorified zero-shot models, industrial tasks need discrete reliable outcomes, and experts remain necessary when automation cannot safely handle labeling decisions.

3 supporting quotes
“the majority of production use cases that at least we're seeing from our perspective still tend to be relatively simplistic.”transcript, stated
“The the challenge with getting these into prod within for example computer vision is that most use cases within vision don't have any undo. They involve atoms. You can't undo the picking of an apple or the cutting of a tree if you're doing it robotically. It In many use cases there's”transcript, stated
“You're buying a stock or you're selling a stock. You are pushing the accelerator or not pushing the accelerator.”transcript, stated

Models used: LLMs · multimodal models · classical machine-learning models · fine-tuned deep-learning models

Scale

Alternatives considered (roads not taken)

Simple thumbs-up/down feedback

Rejected because: The speaker says this leaves a huge amount of untapped potential for improving systems that may handle important production information.

“wish to ask ourselves is is this enough? We've seen apps be developed everywhere in which the responses of a model are a thumbs up and a thumbs down. And I think we will look back at this time and cringe at the huge untapped potential that that we we had in improving these”transcript, stated
“model are a thumbs up and a thumbs down. And I think we will look back at this time and cringe at the huge untapped potential that that we we had in improving these systems that are sometimes deployed in production and sometimes handling really important information. We're treating them”transcript, stated

End-to-end automation or QA-only co-pilots

Rejected because: Automation takes a long time to reach production, and LLMs make it harder because their impressive language can mask limited reliability.

“automation is often overrated and most of the time it takes quite a while for a an end-to-end automation system”transcript, stated
“with the LLM it's even harder because we're using these things that are very impressive. They can convince us that they're very intelligent by by their means of speech, but they're actually that not that better in both NLP and in in multimodal approaches”transcript, stated

LLM interface for every workflow

Rejected because: Some software already has precise action interfaces, and a classical/fine-tuned model may be enough for the actual discrete action.

“Bloomberg terminal which is great for trading and it already has the buttons to actually be be pushed to complete trades.”transcript, stated
“these actions can actually be done without using a large model, but by simply using a a classical machine learning model”transcript, stated

Patterns

human-in-the-loop-gate (control)

The system relies on expert labelers to review, correct, and teach models because full automation is unreliable in high-stakes labeling contexts.

“this makes the job of developing human in the loop experiences quite difficult.”transcript, stated
“And if your user is an out of distribution person or a true expert, an engineer, radiologist, then it's very very hard to automate them because by design, they're always introducing an out of distribution piece of knowledge to your training set.”transcript, stated

multi-agent-orchestration (coordination)

The talk frames co-pilots as assistants to human professionals rather than autonomous replacements, with the human and model sharing task execution.

“that's a bit more restricted? One other very important point when it comes to human computer interaction is that we like to think of LLMs as co-pilots. But in reality so this thing that it's continuously supporting reactions continuously aware of that stream of a task and a task in the case of for”transcript, stated
“end-to-end automation system or even a co-pilot system that assists someone by making them just do QA”transcript, stated

fine-tuning-adaptation (model-adaptation)

The speaker repeatedly contrasts large models with smaller models fine-tuned on bespoke data for industry tasks.

“not that better in both NLP and in in multimodal approaches than something that is just fine-tuned with a smaller amount of data.”transcript, stated
“It just needs to, uh, it to complete actions and these actions can actually be done without using a large model, but by simply using a a classical machine learning model or even just a regular deep learning model that's fine-tuned on bespoke data. 1 minute warning.”transcript, stated

data-quality-loop (training-data)

The core product concern is how human feedback and ground-truth labels become better data for model learning over time.

“we handle the ground truth of hundreds of AI companies and through that we're able to learn what exactly does good knowledge look like”transcript, stated
“How do we make an experience where this thing actually learns over time?”transcript, stated

Tradeoffs

Use Auto Label as a co-pilot rather than full replacement.

Chose Human-reviewed multimodal co-pilot labeling over Fully automated expert labeling.

Rationale: If the expert work is easy enough to automate fully, the speaker argues the user likely should not be labeling that data in the first place.

“truly a multimodal copilot that is able to understand your language instructions”transcript, stated
“labeler on the other side, cannot automate cannot can be, you know, fully automated by a model in this case, then probably shouldn't be labeling that piece of data. And if your user is an out of distribution person or a true expert, an engineer, radiologist, then it's very very hard to”transcript, stated

Prefer smaller fine-tuned/classical models for some discrete tasks.

Chose Task-specific models where the outcome is simple and well-defined over Using a large model interface for every action.

Rationale: Many industrial workflows only need a discrete action, so the broad reasoning surface of an LLM can be unnecessary.

“Most industry use cases have defined outcomes and this is actually one problem for why large models are not finding its way into many industry use cases is that we actually have designed industry use cases to have very strictly defined discrete outcomes.”transcript, stated
“the actual problems that we're using AI for are quite simple because we have designed simple systems.”transcript, stated

Keep humans involved despite high automation ambition.

Chose Human-in-the-loop product experiences over Immediate end-to-end automation.

Rationale: The talk says automation takes a long time to reach production and large models still fail on reliability, teaching, and context targeting.

“most of the time it takes quite a while for a an end-to-end automation system or even a co-pilot system”transcript, stated
“And with the LLM it's even harder because we're using these things that are very impressive. They can convince us that they're very intelligent by by their means of speech, but they're actually that not that better in both NLP and in in multimodal approaches than something that is just fine-t”transcript, stated

Gotchas (what bit them)

Thumbs-up/down feedback is too weak for production learning loops.

Root cause: Binary critique does not capture the rich correction, context, and teaching signal needed to improve systems.

Resolution: Design richer human-computer interaction around labeling, teaching, and information transfer.

“We're treating them really uh like at the the very beginning of machine learning implementations with just a a thumb up or a thumb down critique.”transcript, stated
“anything that has to do with labeling or teaching or getting information that's inside here to make its way into a model's knowledge.”transcript, stated

Automation can be overrated when production decisions have no undo.

Root cause: Industrial tasks often involve physical or financial consequences with strictly defined outcomes.

Resolution: Keep automation bounded and use human review where mistakes cannot be safely reversed.

“most use cases within vision don't have any undo. They involve atoms.”transcript, stated
“involve atoms. You can't undo the picking of an apple or the cutting of a tree if you're doing it robotically. It In many use cases there's no room for error. Most industry use cases have defined outcomes and this is actually one problem for why large models are not finding its way into many”transcript, stated

Humans are not automatically good model teachers.

Root cause: User-provided retraining feedback may be incorrect or poorly formatted for how RLHF/model learning works.

Resolution: Treat human teaching as a product-design problem, not a raw feedback channel.

“people are terrible teachers. Most of the time if you're giving people the ability to retrain a model, they will usually give them incorrect information”transcript, stated
“information that is just not written in the way you would normally RLHF the model.”transcript, stated

Correct information can still be wrong for the user.

Root cause: Information asymmetry means the same answer may be inappropriate depending on who receives it.

Resolution: Account for user role, expertise, and context in human-in-the-loop design.

“Most of the time the answer is not wrong, it is just the wrong information given to the wrong person.”transcript, stated
“these are still problems that within LLMs are, I would say, largely unsolved in production systems.”transcript, stated

Evaluation

The talk evaluates production HITL maturity through observed industry practice, V7's ground-truth platform experience, and qualitative failure modes rather than a formal benchmark.

Metrics: hundreds of AI companies' ground-truth workflows · petabytes of labeled training data · presence of production feedback mechanisms · automation reaching production · discrete outcome correctness · quality of human teaching signal

3 supporting quotes
“We're a training data platform and because of that we handle the ground truth of hundreds of AI companies and through that we're able to learn what exactly does good knowledge look like uh to be fed into neural networks.”transcript, stated
“We're talking about petabytes of training data that is also really well labeled”transcript, stated
“these are still problems that within LLMs are, I would say, largely unsolved in production systems.”transcript, stated

Outcomes

V7 reports handling ground truth for hundreds of AI companies and petabytes of well-labeled training data; the talk does not provide Auto Label adoption or accuracy metrics.

3 supporting quotes
“Within our product, we have something called auto label, which is effectively a large model that given a small prompt, such as segmenting out one of these airplanes, it goes off and starts to segment all the other airplanes that it sees in the picture.”transcript, stated
“truly a multimodal copilot that is able to understand your language instructions”transcript, stated
“production use cases that at least we're seeing from our perspective still tend to be relatively simplistic.”transcript, stated